Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.
Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion
Edit2: IP= intellectal property
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I thought of a few stupid things, but everyone talking about kids made me think of this one.
I am strongly against Trickle down suffering.
“I put up with this terrible thing when I was your age, and even though we could stop it from happening to anyone, it’s important that we make YOU suffer through it too.”
Hazing, bullying, unfair labor laws, predatory banking and more. It’s really just the “socially acceptable” cycle of abuse.
Strongly agree. Someone has to break the cycle of abuse, it’s wrong to contribute to the cycle so that it can continue harming others in the future.
Edit, one example that comes to mind is the extremely long shifts in the medical field in America. One guy who was really good at being a doctor happened to be someone who voluntarily took on very long hours. Now there is this persistent mindset that every medical worker must accept long hours and double shifts without notice and without complaints.
There are a few cases where it benefits the patient to avoid handing off the case to another doctor, but generally it just limits the pool of people who are willing to go into the medical field, and limits the career length and lifespan of the people who do go for it.
Trickle down suffering is a great term for it, I’m going to use that for future use.
I sort of disagree. Some pain and suffering is what helps some people become better versions of themselves. Doesn’t work for everyone though, so it shouldn’t be the default experience, but rather a last resort.
Yes, facing adversity does build resilience. However, creating adversity for another just because YOU had to face it is wrong. I had a professor who called our career a “brotherhood of suffering” and would purposely create artificial stumbling blocks and make things more difficult because he had the same done to him. It’s perpetrating a cycle of abuse. I’ve now gotten to the point where I’ve taught in university and in the hospital and I try to break that cycle. It’s still a very difficult path, the content and pace are still taxing. Many still don’t make it to graduation, why make it harder then it needs to be?
Misguided pride or PTSD perhaps?
I agree with OP, and I think you may as well but are stating it differently. Hardships and difficulty so indeed provide the opportunities to better oneself, but that shouldn’t come from contrived abuse like bullying or hazing. Those are instances of someone using their previous difficulty as an excuse to make it harder for someone else which I don’t believe is morally correct.
Maybe, maybe not. My thought for the comment was “tried to help, didn’t work, off you go and experience as is”.
Because not everyone learns the same way, so we can’t apply a fix-all universal method. Some kids, adults even, don’t get it until they experience it themselves.
What that “it” is changes from person to person and every time we think “why don’t they just understand”, maybe it’s that they can’t understand and need a different way of learning “it”. Which sometimes is painful.
I get you, and I agree with that. What I’m talking about is more specific. I’m not saying remove all suffering. Suffering will always exist. I’m saying if given the option to cause suffering to another or not, “well, it happened to me” is NOT justification for suffering.
It’s not pain and suffering that you admire its perseverance. You can have one without the other.
Perseverance against what if not pain?
The fact that this is your reply goes to show you need to learn more.
Sorry, I’m not into S&M play.
Unavoidable pain and suffering, sure. This is about contrived, otherwise unnecessary suffering to “prove a point” or pay it forward in a negative way.
Ah yes, the “poverty builds character” argument that’s often used to justify poverty.
Nah mate, it’s the “rich ppl need to experience poverty in order to empathize” argument.
Why should anyone need to experience poverty in the first place?
Because resources are finite and frugality is needed at times.
Global agricultural systems produce 4 million metric tonnes of food each year. If the food were equitably distributed, this would feed an extra one billion people (paper)
Food is clearly not finite, we produce more than we already need, so why does it cost money? Why don’t we give food to people simply because they don’t have enough pieces of paper or coins of silver?
The ancient people of Teotihuacán decided to stop building pyramids and instead built everyone homes, in a sort of luxury social housing, that “In comparison with other ancient Mesoamerican patterns of housing, these structures do look like elite houses.” (Source) This one is especially fascinating and maddening.
It seems that a peoples society can just, you know, make the decision to build and provide a luxury life for everyone, even in the “hard” ancient days of old. Why can’t we provide a good life for everyone? Why are people obsessed with the idea of suffering being a prerequisite to urban society? It would require proof of a large scale, urban society with no evidence of hierarchy being able to collectively build some sort of intricate sewage technology without any top-down management or something… https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/aug/chinas-oldest-water-pipes-were-communal-effort
Poverty is artificial, it’s a product of using social violence through some abstract currency to protect people from literal violence. Money isn’t the root of all evil, but evil is the root of all money.
Nice theorycraft, but it’s just theory. In real life, it doesn’t work.
For one thing, by our own definitions, life is inherently evil. It takes, consumes, destroys, selfishly breaks down something else in order to sustain itself. We may rationalize it in different ways, but it can’t escape that attribute. And as long as an individual has to sustain themselves, they will have no choice but to commit evil. But we selectively view badly those who indulge themselves.
Another is that perfection cannot be achieved, wastage is unavoidable. We have to produce more than is needed or we will end up with less than required.
Accidents, logistics, incompetence, corruption and the like cannot be completely prevented. There will always be something beyond the calculated parameters that can and will eventually overwhelm a system.
And let’s not forget about the desire to control. Whether tyrants or the utopic society you’re implying for, it’s about control, whether to control oneself or all others. But is the mind that easily controlable and should it be? The desires we have and the willpower to pursue or restrain them aren’t that easily defined.
We are not all of the same mind. Neurodiversity proves that people are different in thought and in feeling. The pursuits and responsibilities two different individuals can maintain for themselves over their lifetimes can go below or above the set standard and a civilization must take into account the satisfaction of its citizens in order to avoid its own downfall.
Also, what was achieved in one society will likely not be accepted in another. So good luck expecting everyone, everywhere to accept a unitary system simply because it’s better. I sincerely have my doubts that anyone can succeed in that.
This all has to take into account the planet’s uneven geographical resources distribution as well. Our current production rates barely give a damn about sustainability. Soil nutrition, water consumption, population density, logistics and so on have to be taken into account, so this means population relocation, specialized production specific to regional conditions, limitations of product diversity and availability.
Anyway, what you want can’t be done and if it can be done, it can’t last because people aren’t static pieces of paper. A near-perfect distribution of basic needs requires a level of sacrifice and constant maintenance that we lack the willpower and stare of mind to accept responsibility for at this point in time.
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Tl;dr:
To make it simple with a one-off example, will you feed fascists or racists if it meant their continued oppression of minorities? And if so, can you ensure everyone else will do the same?
Equal or equitable basic needs indeed need equal or equitable behavior, but we ourselves lack that. And due to that lacking, we make do with what we do have.
What should be doesn’t matter, only what is.
Mine: Kids are pretty great, actually. They are smarter than you think and can make sense of a lot of stuff you wouldnt expect them to. You should treat their thoughts and feelings with the same respect that you would give an adult.
If you look at the facts kids are leaning towards progress. Less underage sex, less drug and alcohol use, and women are more educated then ever. Boys are starting to lag though:/.
I don’t think “less underage sex” is a good thing. It means that humans remain in a state of childhood longer and longer. They’re achieving life milestones at later and later ages. I’m not gonna say when the correct time for everyone to start having sex is, but when I was in high school 15 or 16 was a lot more common than 18+
Is this an “I turned out fine” opinion, or is this based on something more concrete?
Do you actually think it’s a bad thing to have sex at 16 years old? I think it’s a bad thing that young people are so terrified of living their lives for so long
No, I never said that but it does show that this serious situation isn’t taken lightly.
What serious situation
If you dont think sex shouldn’t be taken lightly phew o boy.
Sex has nothing to do with emotional or mental maturity except with more education you are less likely to have casual sex. It has nothing to do with “becoming a man or woman”. Plenty of adults are extremely accomplished without getting sex involved. Sex is literally just an act of putting your genitals together. How does that make an adult from a child? It doesnt.
It literally does though
That’s actually a crazy thing to say that we need more under age sex.
That being there are 2 types of people, the ones who cherish childhood and those that want to go up.
We need teenagers to start living their lives again, which it seems like they’re not. A lot of people under the age of ~24 are in a really poor state, developmentally
Teenagers slept around because they were bored. Now they can learn coding and game. They are legitimately using less drugs. Drinking less and having sex left because they are busy developing skills for work and life.
This is so dystopian
I think Gen Z voters reversed the trend in many nations including Germany and the USA, at least the males have a strong conservative bias compared to Millennials.
Kids are crazy smart of you don’t baby them their whole lives. Talk to them like responsible adults and (surprise!) they’ll learn to behave in responsible adult like ways.
Plus you can make them do a ton of chores for twenty bucks a week.
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I like to call them little adults in this context.
As in, they are adults, but still growing. If adult is the end game, we should treat them as such.
This doesn’t mean don’t protect them tho respective of where they are at, which is dynamic and surprising.
Kids aren’t dumb, but they are stupid.
They are still growing and cannot handle the full dose of reality yet.
I also apply this logic to animals. A lot of people, even some pet owners, are quite far divorced from our connection to animals, and don’t spend enough time with them. Even wild animals, they are far more intelligent, inquisitive, emotional, and communicative than most people give them credit for, and coexistance with them would actually be a wonderful thing. I’m not religious, I don’t say grace, and I eat meat… But anytime I eat an animal I try to at least be mindful and thankful for the animals sacrifice.
“Humans are the weakest of all creatures, so weak that other creatures are willing to give up their flesh that we may live. Humans are able to survive only though the exercise of rationality since they lack the abilities of other creatures to gain food through the use of fang and claw.”
Being “proud” of your acheivements is fine.
Being “proud” of your country or your state or your football team that you’re not a member of,or your ethnicity is douchebaggery.
My country is ranked most patriotic in the world, at 94%.
I’m part of the 6% who isn’t patriotic. I’m instead proud of THAT. Especially since we have an extreme football fandom that I’m really getting tired of being a part of, mostly due to the hooligans that resulted from this. After the last World Cup, I just stopped caring.
Being proud of someone else makes you a douchebag?
Any pride which implies superiority over others is douchebaggery. Especially when based on exclusivity of group membership for things you didnt earn yourself. Or anything used to shame others.
Being proud you made yourself work out every day is good. Saying you are proud that you have a better body than most is douchbaggery. Being proud that your wife is hot is douchebaggery. Being proud that your city made the playoffs is douchebaggery. Being proud of yourself that you worked hard and are financially stable is fine, especvially if you keep it to yourself. Being proud that you are rich is douchebaggery.
Being proud of the price of your car is douchebaggery.Theres nuance there, I’ll leave it to you to figure it out. I think if your pride is intended to make others feel lesser then you can do better.
You are assuming having pride means you put down others accomplishments, but that’s not always the case. You can be a fan of a sports team and still not hate the opposing team.
Killing yourself is ok. You don’t know what it’s like to be them and be in their head.
I’ll never do it. Even in darkest depths, but respect anyone’s right to say peace out.
Agreed. The idea that you owe people your life is pretty nuts. At the end of the day, you can be robbed of everything, including your life. But it’s the one thing you’re not allowed to end. In a perfect world I do think that people who are suicidal should both:
(a) have to discuss their suicide with a trained professional. What does this look like? Idk. But probably along the lines of “are you capable of healing / can we heal what is causing these thoughts or no?”
(b) be able to get professional euthanasia. No pain, someone to be there with them through the process. Not just a sterile room where you go to die, but a place you are going to leave your pain behind and move on
If there is an afterlife, hopefully they find peace there.
Open borders. I strongly believe in open borders as a moral imperative. Human beings have been migrating for survival, resources, and exploration for over 20,000 years. The concept of nation-states imposing constraints on movement is a modern invention that doesn’t align with the inherent human need for freedom of mobility. People in the southwestern states of the US with Mexican roots will tell you “We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us.”
Yeah, the fact that you can want to go somewhere, and have the resources to do so… And a faceless government bureaucrat hundreds of miles away can just go “lol no you’re not allowed here.” It is mind boggling.
fellow border abolitionist! i recommend people to read Borders by Thomas King. Borders are not real. It’s past time for land back
This is a difficult concept for us “modern humans” to wrap our heads around so I get why some of the responses are “civilization would collapse”. But hear me out: We assume that most people in the so called “3rd world” (global south is a better term) actually want to migrate to the wealthier western nations. This is not entirely the case. In the majority of cases people do not want to uproot their families, leave everyone and everything they know behind, have to learn a foreign language and culture. Desperation is what mostly drives this decision!
What I am saying is if we had open borders in the first place migration would actually decrease because nation states would have to compete for human capital, ultimately raising the standards of living for everyone. That is different than what we do now, where nation states exploit people for their labor, do not provide for their basic needs, creating a class driven society where the elites (the one’s who do the exploiting) continue to rule for generation after generation, in many cases with impunity.
Comment I agree with: “If you have money, borders are basically open for you” - @[email protected]
The proof of this is the Trump’s administration concept of the gold card, not to be confused with the green card. The gold card is for individuals who will invest at least $5 million in the US. They than can get a gold card with trump’s face on it and come in and out of the country whenever they please as if there are open borders for them. Link: Trumps Gold card
Comment I do not agree with: “If every border opened up and tons of people moved into Europe/USA and other wealthy countries they would inevitably collapse. Trust in the system would erode and it would all devolve into anarchy.” @[email protected]
I think this is misguided. The rule of law and enforcement of it would not simply cease to be because of opening up of borders. This is exactly what the ruling elites conditioned society to think and it is baseless Hollywood type propaganda created to keep the working class fighting among themselves and under the boot of the ruling class. They want you to think this way because most people who immigrate to another country are honest hard working people and NOT criminals. What do hard working honest people want to do? They want to provide for their families the best quality of life possible. How does one achieve that? One cannot by his or herself, one needs to join the many in the form of working class unions. What would happen if we the working class people all joined unions? We make the Capitalists elites our bitch. We dictate the working conditions and we decide what is a fair wage. Do you see where I am going with this? THERE IS STRENGTH IN NUMBERS and the ruling elite minority could no longer exploit the working class majority.
Regarding the collapse of wealthy countries I was more thinking of the social securities like free healthcare, education, retirement, welfare etc. I don’t think the justice system will collapse and agree that that is right-wing propaganda. But I can see the first things I mentioned happening when there is an influx in people that do not immediately pay I to the system to finance it for others. This might not apply to the US where education and healthcare isn’t free to begin with, but in countries like Germany where it’s the case it might be more severe. On the other hand, the retirement system is already very strained in Germany as there are less and less young people to pay for the old ones that retired…
In the United States we do not have the social welfare system that Europe does. Our political class chooses to invest in the military and imperialist wars abroad instead of providing “free” college education or healthcare for our people. It’s not right and is a big reason that Bernie Sanders, the only socialist democrat in the US congress has become so popular, because he is constantly telling us that the richest country in the world has zero excuse not to provide those basic needs to its people.
I think that is another fallacy that the ruling class elites like to tell us: don’t let all those foreigners in or our healthcare and education system will collapse! Fear mongering is what this is. For example in the United States in the last decade undocumented immigrants have contributed roughly $200 Billion into the Social Security system of which they do not get to benefit from. Also, immigrants have contributed immensely to local economies, revitalizing entire forgotten manufacturing towns in the Midwest that have been destroyed by outsourcing of jobs to Asia for cheap labor. My point is a huge influx, which I don’t believe would happen anyway, would just contribute to the tax base because regardless of immigrant status in the US you pay taxes just by being another consumer. Social programs including healthcare and education would just adjust over time.
You know who actually is about to cause the collapse of our social security and medicare systems in the US? Elon Musk, Trump and their billionaire cronies who infiltrated government and NOT migrants coming over the border working the fields for $5 per hour.
Based on your comment it seems to me like you’re a German citizen. Let me give some unsolicited advice: Fight like hell to keep your social welfare programs! The news lately seems to be showing that Germany is re-militarizing and that may come at a cost just like in the USA they will try to claw money away from social programs to redirect to military spending. Fight like hell so you don’t become the capitalist wasteland the USA has become with ruling elites trying to privatize every program.
Wouldn’t it turn the whole world upside down if nation states had to compete for their population?
unpopular moral take: All religions are absurd cop outs and you should choose your own model for how to be a good person.
Hotter take: ban religion completely outside of religious facilities and private dwellings.
No iconography, no discussion, nothing. You can go into your temple and do whatever stupid shit you want, you can aid the poor if you want, but everything to do with your religion stays behind closed doors.
super redhot take: implement a lifelong exclusion for being around unattended kids for any priests that are caught pedophiling. Mandatory bright red wrist bracelet wearing for life. And exclusion from ever being a priest again.
Include any higher ups in the church who knew about it and didnt immediately report it to the state law enforcement. There should not be any second system of justice within the priesthood. They follow existing government laws around abuse of children or they are acting criminally, no exceptions. If the pedopriests take off the bracelet they report it immediately to law enforcement or they can face life in prison, still wearing the bracelet.
True but you gotta remember the most violent and horrific religion of them all…
I think the bases of all religions are similar enough… Don’t be an asshole, don’t be selfish and help others in need, accept everyone, etc…
Problem is the people that actually follow religions (specially when it’s a big part of their life) are mostly assholes that don’t follow the basic dogmas they themselves preach.
Nope, not even close. It’s not even the basis of Christianity, and we associate that one with this message the most (for some reasons). If there is a basis that all religions share, it’s that unwavering notion that the religion in question is the right one, and every other is heresy and should be eliminated.
No that’s quite popular here, thanks for outing yourself as a bigot and welcome to my ever growing blocklist
Agreed. You are very welcome on my list :)
Stealing is OK, the ok-ness of the stealing is inversely proportional to the wealth of the person you steal from.
If you steal 100 dollars from someone who only has 1000 dollars, that’s reprehensible, but if you can nick a few million off a billionaire fucking go for it.
Robin Hood wasn’t portrayed as a villain.
Didn’t realize I felt exactly the same. Same goes for stores. If the local store screwed themselves in my favor, I’d likely say something. If the big box store fucked up? LOL, mine.
That just means all you have to do is come up with a justification and steal all you want for the most part and we as humans are very good at this sort of mental gymnastics. One might say that cognitive dissonance is one of our biggest super powers.
I think relative harm factors in too. Decimating someone’s resources when they’re likely to struggle to feed themselves next month? Or course that’s reprehensible. Taking a tiny portion from someone who won’t even notice, especially when you’ll probably get a lot more out of it? Now you’re practically Robin Hood
Yes but this is a very shallow view which ignores other consequences like moral order, trust and social landscapes.
Circumcision is multilation
I think that’s starting to come around, no?
The big thing is just not comparing it to female circumcision. Both are fucked up, but female circumcision is done explicitly to destroy sexual function. It’s rare for male circumcision to go so wrong that all sexual function is lost, but that’s the goal of female circumcision.
Male circumcision started in the usa explicitly to stop boys from masturbating. With Dr Kellogg’s goal a world of numb sex. All the health reason were either just the healthy effects of no masturbating or made after the fact.
And that not the oldest we have writings from the early Muslim world wwre someone wrote that we do so baby associates pain with his genitals. Amd thats not the oldest record explaining male cicr as an anti sex anti pleasure.
What if it’s done with consent, to an adult?
I don’t know if it’s a moral per se, but I think nobody should be able to decline being an organ donor. It is an absolute and unforgivable waste to let bodies rot/burn when they could save someone. There is no reason, no good reason, to not be an organ donor. There is no good reason to be able, even after you’re dead, to just let people needlessly die.
And religious reasons are even more moronic. What God, if you truly believe he’s good and righteous and loving, would want you to let someone else die if you could save them? Why is your meat sack more important than somebody’s life? Don’t most people believe the soul leaves the body? It’s just meat.
I’ve had countless arguments about this, but nobody has ever been able to give me a compelling reason as to why letting someone die to protect a corpse is right or just.
The only counterargument to it I can imagine is that in shit-backwards healthcare systems like US one, it will disincentivize bad doctors from saving your life. If you’re poor and your family can’t afford good lawyer, they don’t have a good reason to give 100% to save your life, when they can give it 80%, and then sell your organs for good profit.
It’s not an argument against compulsive organ donation, more of a one against shit healthcare systems, but still.Obviously I am not for the sale of organs. And in a system where everyone is a donor, waiting list will probably be much shorter giving people less incentive to try and acquire organs in unethical ways.
But you’re right of course, the system has to be robust and fair to not cause issues with it, though of course this is true for any system, not just organ donations.
A family member of mine used to take organs from Cytek, possible misspelling, to DFW airport for transport out of the country. It’s already a lucrative business.
I would shred my body out of spite before passing. I paid exorbitant living expenses my whole life just to exist and now that I’m dead you want more of me?
Get fucked!
You know what? I understand the feeling. But then I realize that the poor guy waiting for a kidney is really not to blame for how fucked up society is.
If you cannot cook yourself a basic meal (I’m talking boil water, dump a box of pasta in, cook it, strain it, then add red sauce from a jar level of basic), you have failed as a human being. An adult using the whole excuse of “I just can’t cook” is pathetic and inexcusable unless you have genuine mental incapacities that prevent you from learning a basic recipe and how to use a stovetop, especially now with access to the internet/videos teaching how to cook.
I can cook just fine, but I really prefer baking. With cooking you have to make sure you are there watching it the whole time. I love how with baking I can just mix it up in a bowl, pour it in a pan, and cook it for an hour in the oven.
I don’t know what value my comments adds to this discussion, just wanted to share my love of baking ig.
Hell yeah, I love to bake. I definitely prefer baking over cooking, though I do enjoy both. I usually make bagels or cookies, but I’m gonna try my hand at sourdough bread soon. What do you like to bake?
BUT I’M SO BUSY /s
Agreed, cooking edible food in the twenty first century is such a low bar, just follow a recipe and make sure nothing gets burnt and it is cooked through.
While I agree, my ex once lit the house on fire while trying to make ramen.
Given, she was stoned out of her mind and passed out long enough for all the water to boil off. I got home from work just in time to find the bone-dry noodles burning in the pot.
That’s quite the lore
Death penalty is wrong. Also vengeance prison is wrong, VERY unpopular opinions. I can’t tell you how many people will full on yell at you if you say this in public. I think rehab prison is what should happen for any prisoner that isn’t in for murder one or rape, domestic abuse. Financial crimes? House arrest, monitored assets, no access to exploitable systems. Property crime? Make sure they have a legitimate job, parole, house arrest if serious, garnished wages. We could have the vast majority of prisoners on parole or house arrest and in treatment, or jobs programs and out prison population would be at a normal percentage compared to the rest of the world.
I treat all people with religious beliefs as members of a dormant terrorist cell.
They could be your nice neighbor with whom you can interact normally on a day-to-day basis, but in the end they all have compromised against logic and, in the right conditions, that is a terrible liability.
As a progressive Christian that has spent my entire life actively helping the poor, needy, and visitors to our lands may I say a full throated ‘fuck you’ to you and everyone like you.
Every time I see someone like you paint every theist with the same brush they dip for regressive protestants it makes my efforts to counter their vile spew that much more burdensome. But you do you. I guess. At some point I’m just going to stop trying bc I’m tired of being lumped together with the ‘god hates fags’ crowd.
I hope your childish bigotry is worth losing 1/3 of your allies
This is the kind of response I am used to: swearing due to offended identity, inherently divisive terminology like “our lands” and blaming for causing you to lose theist intestine wars.
Having tried a lot in the past, I know that a comment thread is not the place or modality to conduct a fruitful conversation with a Christian.
Being born a Catholic, I can tell you that epiphany came when I realized that all the good things I am sure you did do not need to bring with them the mark of a (made up) system of power: you own it yourself and the real animus driving your actions can be just a feeling of belonging to the human species at large, a species free to roam any land without the need to plant flags nor to feel attached to any place only to limit the potential of others and one’s own.
I have EDS and am medically angry nearly all of the time, it is in my fucking profile. It is a burden for me to mask my coms style and frankly anyone who expects it is too thin skinned to be worth talking to anyway. Using my response to justify your persistent bigotry is entirely you my friend and I can guarantee you that I am not like anyone you have ever spoken to before.
I too was born Catholic, Catechism and everything, and became an atheist at age 14, then an anti-theist at 20.
There is literally no argument you can make that I haven’t already made better
And at 30 I had an experience that profoundly changed my perspective and I abandoned my childish atheism and have been a gnostic Christian ever since.
Every one of my past arguments were laid bare for what they were: Justifications for me to continue to live a life that I desired, instead of the life my creator made me for.
I would truly enjoy a spirited debate with atheists, and I have tried to have such since before the internet had pictures, but sadly I haven’t found more than a clumsy shopkeeper’s handful of you that could maintain intellectual honesty for more than 3 posts.
Wait a second… gnostic like in Gnostic? I didn’t know it was still a thing. I thought they had you all killed by the other Christians in the 2nd century.
Not completely, there were holdouts in Ethiopia and Iraq but the writings survived and are only more applicable today.
Point of order: In my case the supposedly heretical sect label happened to apply but when most Christians use lowercase ‘g’ gnostic they are referring to the fact that they have certainty that God exists via inner secret knowledge.
While that does hold true for the myriad of sects labeled as ‘Gnostic’, there is a ton more conceptual dogma that is not considered true by most lowercase ‘g’ gnostics
Not that any of you heathens really care.
I think immigration laws are inherently a violation of universal human rights. What is a more basic expression of freedom and liberty than being able to choose where in the world to build your life?
Full marks for unpopular (at least everywhere but here).
Counter-moral: any community has the right to decide its own membership.
I would argue a community can decide their membership, but society is a collection of communities and cannot decide their membership. Otherwise you end up with theocracies and/or racial supremacist states.
From my point of view of life, it feels like the belief of “Do unto others as you would like others to do to you” is no longer something most people seem to believe in.
I kind of like “treat others the way they treat other people.”
This is a good one, thanks for sharing.
“Treat others the way you want to be treated” is such a core belief of mine. Im in my late 20s now and I’m more and more disheartened by how rare it is to meet people who believe it. Growing up I couldn’t understand. Now that I’m older I still have issues coming to terms with it. People suck and it sucks.
To quote Margaret Thatcher, “a man who doesn’t own a car by the age of 26 can count himself a failure.”
I heavily disagree with that statement. Everyone has reasons not to drive. From disability, to cities being designed for walking and public transport, to being opposed to the pollution that is caused as a result of it, to not wanting to participate in traffic congestion, to not being able to fucking afford one, to being so bad at driving that you just give up after failing that license test multiple times, or to simple personal preference. Are all these people failures apparently? How does that make sense? Well, I guess the people who give up after failing the license test are, but everyone else??
I’m to drunk to drive
Drunk driving is one of the leading causes of car collisions, so… you’re making great progress.
